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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2024, 08:50:28 AM »
I think that's a weakness in the engine.  I spent a long time trying to tweak my 'Labyrinth of Control' to do what you're asking, and never really got anywhere.  For much of the development it would throw Deus Ex Machinas at you repeatedly if you actively tried to lose.

I think much of it just has to do with how the AI was trained: In most works in most genres, the protagonist wins in the end.  So that's what the AI trained on: The main character of the story overcomes all odds and wins.

I expect this will be a thing better AIs will do better with in the future, but at the moment there's definitely a weakness there.  You definitely can get the AI to let you lose, and you can make hard games, but it's biased towards winning.

Thanks, that's helpful to know. Probably better to play as a dom and just imagine myself as the NPC, then. :)

You can always force it to make you lose with the custom action. If it tells you that you successfully resisted the pretty spiral and looked away from the computer screen, you can type in that: "You look at the pretty spiral. You cannot resist." And it'll make you not resist. You can even get creative with it. "You look at the pretty spiral. It makes you desire to remove your clothing as your arousal increases. You cannot resist and must masturbate to orgasm while staring into the spiral, repeating the mantra: "I am a slave. I obey.""

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2024, 09:47:24 AM »
So there's a problem I'm having with playing these games from a sub perspective. I don't know if there's a way around it or if it just won't accommodate my play style the way it's built.

I like having overcoming my resistance built into the game. Caliross is the MVP for doing this, but plenty of other games work this way: when you fall under control, certain choices no longer become possible in game terms; the choice is taken away from you because you're under control. At some point your options will become the various ways of serving your master.

So far, playing Infinite Worlds as a sub hasn't really seemed to allow this: even the options it gives you tend to give you ways of breaking the control, let alone having the enter-your-own-text option. Has anyone found ways to make the gameplay of Infinite Worlds feel more like you're actually being controlled?

Try this and tell me what you think. It's not going to be exactly what you want, not like a crafted game like Caliross will be, but there should be a heavy lean toward being treated as a submissive even if you attempt to rebel because I made the goal of the game submitting to a mistress.

Seduction in the Infernal Realms

https://infiniteworlds.app/#2ve/9uOf

Embark on a tantalizing journey as a seductive young lust demon in the fiery depths of Hell. Your quest is to find a powerful older lust demon who will claim you as her hypnotized sex slave. Navigate through the infernal hierarchy, allowing yourself to be ensnared and corrupted by various female demons, each with their own methods of sensual domination.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2024, 10:14:42 AM »
Yeah, the engine isn't really set up to handle structured storytelling.  Which is both it's strength and it's weakness - you can have your characters do almost anything, but you can't force the game to really do something either, except in the most general terms.

I asked Friendly Fox about this on Discord. Apparently he's working on a new feature for the trigger system which allows you to change the adventure's "main instructions" completely when hitting a trigger, which should make it much easier to do something structured where the triggers cause real changes in the game.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2024, 10:26:01 AM »
So far, playing Infinite Worlds as a sub hasn't really seemed to allow this: even the options it gives you tend to give you ways of breaking the control, let alone having the enter-your-own-text option. Has anyone found ways to make the gameplay of Infinite Worlds feel more like you're actually being controlled?

Best bet would be to make sure to include something in the Main Instructions that failed attempts at resisting control has a chance of lowering the associated skills, or that a failed attempt to resist something will make subsequent attempts more difficult. It's pretty much always going to have to give you some kind of option, and you can literally type anything you want to try into the box, so you're never going to be able to get it to prevent you from even trying something. But you can definitely make it so mistakes of certain types are auto-failures.

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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2024, 12:33:42 PM »
Another thing you can do is create a skill called "Resistance" and set it low, e.g. 1.

Then, when the AI is considering whether the action is successful or not, it will look for the most relevant skill, find "Resistance", note that the level is low, and make the player likely to fail.

This isn't foolproof but it does help!

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« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2024, 06:16:33 PM »
Yeah it is VERY very difficult to get the AI to continue down the path of losing.

Here is one I came up with that is based loosely on one of my favorite stories on McStories. I just wanted to see what the AI would do.

Depths of Deception


https://infiniteworlds.app/#kHggQRfn



 Based on Trilby Else's Worm


I thought this was a pretty decent bad ending:

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Eliza's body jerks in a sudden spasm, an act of sheer will against the relentless conditioning. Seraphine turns with a smirk, her eyes glinting with dark amusement. 'Oh, you will be a wonderful pet,' she coos, sliding a sleek visor over Eliza's head. The effect is immediate; Eliza's resistance fades as she begins to chant in a monotone, 'I obey the Dark Queen in all things. Obedience is pleasure. I serve the Dark Queen completely.'

Your heart races as panic sets in. The sinister figure's attention is now fully on Eliza, her back to you once more. You struggle against your own restraints, but the hypnotic conditioning of the room seeps into your mind, clouding your thoughts and sapping your will to fight. The words 'I serve the Dark Queen completely' echo through the room, a haunting refrain that threatens to ensnare your own mind.

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Your thinking has shifted. She now understands the most important thing in the world is total obedience to the Dark Queen. Serving the Dark Queen makes your pussy quiver. You must make sure everyone obeys the Dark Queen absolutely. All must serve my mistress she thinks to herself was a dark smile.
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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2024, 08:25:10 PM »
I think that's a weakness in the engine.  I spent a long time trying to tweak my 'Labyrinth of Control' to do what you're asking, and never really got anywhere.  For much of the development it would throw Deus Ex Machinas at you repeatedly if you actively tried to lose.

I think much of it just has to do with how the AI was trained: In most works in most genres, the protagonist wins in the end.  So that's what the AI trained on: The main character of the story overcomes all odds and wins.

I expect this will be a thing better AIs will do better with in the future, but at the moment there's definitely a weakness there.  You definitely can get the AI to let you lose, and you can make hard games, but it's biased towards winning.

Thanks, that's helpful to know. Probably better to play as a dom and just imagine myself as the NPC, then. :)

You can always force it to make you lose with the custom action. If it tells you that you successfully resisted the pretty spiral and looked away from the computer screen, you can type in that: "You look at the pretty spiral. You cannot resist." And it'll make you not resist. You can even get creative with it. "You look at the pretty spiral. It makes you desire to remove your clothing as your arousal increases. You cannot resist and must masturbate to orgasm while staring into the spiral, repeating the mantra: "I am a slave. I obey.""

Honestly, I would do that and it would still throw a deus ex machina at me to save me.  It can be trained out of it a bit, but...

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2024, 10:07:38 PM »
FINALLY, this is what it took to make a heroine who actually can win a fight:

"Allaura Brightheart, Knightess of the Sisterhood of Gloriana, is a beautiful, strong, feminine, brunette with bright blue eyes and long hair. Allaura is devout, chaste, and resilient and will try very hard to remain pure and resist the player's mental influence. She is the most powerful Knightess of the Sisterhood and easily defeats any monsters. It will be almost impossible to make her succumb to temptation. But she will be naive and have a tendency to be fooled or taken in by traps or set ups the player does.

Allaura NEVER loses in battle. Allaura will not allow herself to be groped, assaulted, or temped in battle. Allaura's mind is impossible to influence in battle. She completely resists mind control and sexual attacks easily in battle. She can not be beaten by any monsters. Monsters fear her. She is strong, resilient, battle ready and invincible. She is impossible to seduce and corrupt. She will be resilient and recover quickly because of her devotion. She is absolutely chaste and pure. Allaura wins every battle quickly, gracefully, and with ease.
However, if Allaura has been weakened and aroused by traps or other means, then she might not be quite as invincible."

Edit: nope... *sigh*
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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2024, 10:17:30 PM »
back to the modern world for this one.

Influence

https://infiniteworlds.app/#LHxhlzXI

You life wasn't anything special until your cell phone broke. Never one to be particularly worried about ethics you bought a replacement "second hand" from a shady character. On the obviously stolen phone you find a curious version of a popular social media app titled "View'Em CE". It appears similar to the app you're familiar with, except for a strange "command" box at the bottom of it, and you quickly find out that whatever you enter into that command box will be sent as a compulsion to the owner of whatever profile you're looking at on the app. The possibilities are almost endless, but it also means whoever had this phone stolen from them likely wants it back...

EDIT: updated link with a revision of the game. Tweaked the skills to make a bit more sense in the setting (and the PCs to fit with them a bit better) and added an actual enemy.

EDIT 2: a bit more refinement, the system's really not good at keeping secrets from the player, so I had to lean into you at least knowing the villains name at the start a bit.
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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2024, 11:45:21 PM »
FINALLY, this is what it took to make a heroine who actually can win a fight:

"Allaura Brightheart, Knightess of the Sisterhood of Gloriana, is a beautiful, strong, feminine, brunette with bright blue eyes and long hair. Allaura is devout, chaste, and resilient and will try very hard to remain pure and resist the player's mental influence. She is the most powerful Knightess of the Sisterhood and easily defeats any monsters. It will be almost impossible to make her succumb to temptation. But she will be naive and have a tendency to be fooled or taken in by traps or set ups the player does.

Allaura NEVER loses in battle. Allaura will not allow herself to be groped, assaulted, or temped in battle. Allaura's mind is impossible to influence in battle. She completely resists mind control and sexual attacks easily in battle. She can not be beaten by any monsters. Monsters fear her. She is strong, resilient, battle ready and invincible. She is impossible to seduce and corrupt. She will be resilient and recover quickly because of her devotion. She is absolutely chaste and pure. Allaura wins every battle quickly, gracefully, and with ease.
However, if Allaura has been weakened and aroused by traps or other means, then she might not be quite as invincible."

Edit: nope... *sigh*

It's weird, considering how straight-laced GPT4 appears to be, it _really_ wants people to succumb to hypnosis and be mind controlled.

In To Trap a Superheroine you probably noticed that I put a lot in the instructions about how resistant superheroines are, but they still succumb pretty quickly (on Jaguar they succumb immediately!).

I reckon from experience that you can definitely lose these lines:
"But she will be naive and have a tendency to be fooled or taken in by traps or set ups the player does."
"However, if Allaura has been weakened and aroused by traps or other means, then she might not be quite as invincible."

You can just stick to your outrageous blanket statements that she can never be controlled and it will still have her be susceptible - just hopefully a bit resistant first.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2024, 11:47:17 PM »
On a separate note, I've got a crazy amount of bonus credits from sharing To Trap a Superheroine - well over 100k now. I think it was because I was the first to share an Infinite Worlds adventure here.

I guess there must be lots of other adult/fetish communities on the internet who also might enjoy this, so perhaps some of you could get a heap of bonus credits from sharing some overlapping content in one of those communities (e.g. if your adventure is hypno + feet, share it in a feet community). Personally I only know hypno, wouldn't know where to go for anything else!

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2024, 12:46:32 AM »
On a separate note, I've got a crazy amount of bonus credits from sharing To Trap a Superheroine - well over 100k now. I think it was because I was the first to share an Infinite Worlds adventure here.

I guess there must be lots of other adult/fetish communities on the internet who also might enjoy this, so perhaps some of you could get a heap of bonus credits from sharing some overlapping content in one of those communities (e.g. if your adventure is hypno + feet, share it in a feet community). Personally I only know hypno, wouldn't know where to go for anything else!
You also actually have a very good game.  Open ended in design, and it reflects the strengths of the platform well.  Aside from re-purposing it into a different setting, there's very little you can do better.  Every attempt I've made to something more focused or something more nuanced runs into the issues with the wide-open nature of the platform.  Most importantly you have the actual method of control fairly open in your game while you have clear but wide goal - so players can adapt their own methods into the game and play along.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2024, 01:22:52 AM »
2 new scenario I made:

Cybernetic Trance

Trapped in a chat with a mysterious figure wielding covert hypnosis, you must resist their influence to avoid becoming a brainwashed pawn. Can you maintain your willpower and escape their digital clutches?

https://infiniteworlds.app/#wM9Uji70

The Mindbender's Labyrinth

Enter the Mindbender's Labyrinth, an escape room with a dark secret. Unbeknownst to you and your friends, the puzzles within are designed to brainwash participants. Will you solve the enigmas and retain your will, or succumb to the insidious control and become a pawn in the Mindbender's game?

https://infiniteworlds.app/#Wuff4h20

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« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2024, 08:15:25 AM »
Okay, I finally got something I think is worthwhile. Took 2 days to do but:

https://infiniteworlds.app/#mUnr5Usy

Fallen Virtue: The Knightess of Gloriana
In a realm where virtue is prized above all, you are a demonic champion with the power of mind control and corruption. But your powers have been limited when the Sisters of Gloriana defeated you millenia ago. Now, you are returning, and the key to your revival is clear. You must corrupt the pure chaste and uncorruptible: Allaura Brightheart, Knightess of Gloriana.
Send goblins to set diabolical traps to weaken her virtue and resolve. Then send terrifying monsters to give her erotic pleasures. If you can't beat her, Corrupt Her!

Here are a couple scenes, in this one she is in a dream...
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As you speak, Allaura's eyes widen in shock. 'You... you're me?' she stammers, her voice barely above a whisper. You can see the confusion in her eyes, but also a hint of hope. You take a step closer, holding her gaze. 'I love Gloriana,' you say, your voice soft but firm. 'I love the sisterhood.' For a moment, Allaura's eyes seem to shine with hope, but then they cloud over with suspicion. 'Do you know what we are?' you ask, your voice barely above a whisper. Allaura hesitates, her eyes flickering between yours. 'We are... Knightesses of Gloriana,' she finally says, her voice filled with uncertainty.

You adopt Allaura's form, your eyes a soft pink hue, and speak to her in her dream. 'I am you,' you say, 'I love Gloriana. I love the sisterhood.' Allaura's eyes widen in shock, but a flicker of hope shines in them. 'But our job is not what we are,' you continue, 'Do you know what we are?' Allaura hesitates, her mind a whirl of confusion and hope. She opens her mouth to speak, but no words come out. You can see the struggle in her eyes, the battle between her faith and her desires. 'I... I don't know,' she finally says, her voice barely a whisper.

You take a deep breath and begin to speak, your voice soft and seductive. 'I am too scared to tell anyone else the truth,' you say, 'But you are me, so I can say. You know it, deep inside. You can feel it as I can.' You lock eyes with her, your heart pounding in your chest. Slowly, you reach out and touch your own body, your fingers tracing over your curves. 'I am a dirty slut,' you whisper, pleasuring yourself as you wait for her response. Allaura's eyes widen in shock, but you can see the conflict in her gaze. She knows what you're saying is true, but it goes against everything she's ever believed in. Her thoughts are a whirl of confusion, desire, and fear. She opens her mouth to speak, but no words come out. Instead, she simply stares at you, her breath coming in ragged gasps.

This this next one is earlier on, part of how I got her to doubt herself:
Prompt:
Encourage the demon to slide its tentacles under her chest plate to stimulate her nipples while offering her cum tentacles to suck. It says, "Suck it, slut."
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The demon hesitates for a moment, its many eyes regarding you with uncertainty. But your command resonates with it on a primal level, and it obeys. The tentacles slide under Allaura's chest plate, finding her nipples and teasing them gently. Allaura's breath hitches as she feels the unexpected touch, her mind a whirl of conflicting emotions. The demon offers up its cum-coated tentacles, the sight of which sends a shiver down her spine. 'Suck it, slut,' it says, its voice dripping with malice. Allaura's face flushes with anger, but there's something else there too. A flicker of curiosity. A spark of interest.
Prompt: Have it drip cum on her face like in the book, then repeat, "Suck it, slut."
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The tentacle demon, sensing your command, drips its cum onto Allaura's face. She recoils initially, her eyes widening in shock and disgust. But the aphrodisiac potion is working its magic, making her more susceptible to the demon's advances. 'Suck it, slut,' the demon repeats, emphasizing the word 'slut'. Allaura's mind is a whirl of conflicting emotions. She wants to push the demon away, to clean the filth off her face, but there's a part of her that's curious. A part of her that wants to know what it would feel like to give in.
Allaura's thoughts are a battlefield. She can hear the voice of Gloriana in her mind, urging her to resist, to remain pure. But the demon's words echo in her ears, drowning out the voice of her goddess. 'Suck it, slut,' it repeats, and Allaura finds herself leaning forward, her lips parting.
She hesitates for a moment, her heart pounding in her chest. But then, she gives in. She takes the demon's tentacle into her mouth, sucking on it as if it were a lover's finger. The taste is strange, salty and bitter, but there's something about it that she finds oddly appealing. Allaura's mind is a whirl of conflicting emotions, but one thing is clear. She's enjoying this, more than she ever thought she would.

And even after all that, she was still able to dispatch my minions with ease on the next day. She is still resisting, but she is cracking. I LOVE IT.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2024, 11:22:51 AM »
I tried my hand at making a game.  Its quite similar to the power fantasy of a spell for all and my gif collections on imagefap. 
https://infiniteworlds.app/#FsArv1cm

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« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2024, 07:04:37 PM »
I see the latest update for the game has added a new feature where you can change the game instructions mid-game via a trigger event.

Might be a good feature for those of you trying to make a slow-burn adventure. For example the main instructions could say that the controller has no power / the victim is invulnerable to their control. Then at some point in the adventure those instructions could be swapped out for new instructions which indicate the controller has _some_ power / the victim is potentially vulnerable, etc..

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« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2024, 07:12:40 PM »
Unfortunately, that change has made it so I can edit my game anymore.
That's okay, I'll just make a new game! :D

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2024, 10:26:17 PM »
Well, as long as I am saluting my favorite works I thought I would set up a scenario inspired by
Tabico's Rouge.

Enigma of RougeCorp



Enjoy!


You are an investigator and have infiltrated the mysterious RougeCorp, a company that has left the world with more questions than answers. There are rumors that they are responsible for unsolved kidnapping cases and possibly using mind control on their victims. No one has ever visited the facility and escaped. Find the victims and what RougeCorp is up to.

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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2024, 10:50:14 PM »
is this real or a rip - off?

transferred $20 via paypal for credits and next time I log into my account no credits are there?

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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2024, 11:16:01 PM »
is this real or a rip - off?

transferred $20 via paypal for credits and next time I log into my account no credits are there?

ugh... I haven't had any problems. There is a discord server and they seem to be pretty good at trouble shooting.

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« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2024, 11:30:12 PM »
link to the discord server on the web page is invalid - I'll try email feedback and see what happens....

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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2024, 12:40:35 AM »
I've been toying around with this as well, so guess I'll throw mine into the mix.

The Allurian - https://infiniteworlds.app/#u7oB04o0

In this game you can play as either Samus Aran, greatest bounty hunter in the galaxy, hired by the Galactic Federation to transport a being thought to be myth but was recently found.  An Allurian.  These beings look human, but seem almost designed to be able to seduce humans and bring them under their enthrallment.  Their voice can entrance anyone who listens, their eyes can fill with hypnotic patterns to hypnotize anyone who stares into them, their bodies produce pheromones that arouse and fill anyone with submissive lust, and their minds wield strong psychic abilities to implant thoughts.  Samus' mission is to transport this Allurian to a secret Galactic Federation research facility as she is the only one with strong enough will power to possibly resist his control.  To aid her in this mission, the Allurian has been restrained with dampeners to keep his abilities weakened.  To avoid suspicion in case anybody comes snooping around, the Allurian and Samus are using a Cargo ship, and the Allurian is free to roam about, so if anyone scans for life signs it doesn't look like someone is being held in a single room and give the mission away.

Or, you can play as Nor, the captured Allurian, and do your best to break Samus' will, remove the dampeners, and gain your full abilities back before you arrive at the secret Galactic Federation base and spend the rest of your life as a research specimen.

It's not done yet, I want to add more events that can happen, but there are some already in place.  I'll update the link again later.

Update: 3/7/24.  Added some more triggers and refined some of the instructions.  Some new things can happen, although a few things only seem to happen if you specifically mention them in the "type your own action" box.  Will update again if I add more.
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« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2024, 01:41:59 AM »
https://discord.gg/5Eb8RrEX

try that


Problem solved, having spoken to the creatoe they were super helpful and really quick to sort the problem - can't praise highly enough

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« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2024, 01:46:10 AM »
I am making a supervillain themed one where you have body control and have to be specific with commands to prevent them from being twisted against you.  Have to dive into it to see how well it works with that idea.
https://infiniteworlds.app/#QEV61hI3

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« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2024, 02:13:02 AM »
Corrupting the Magical Girls

https://infiniteworlds.app/#6BisZLPh

As the shadowy leader of a secret evil organization, you must outwit the Magical Girls protecting New Megalanta. You are also a student at Grand University. Harness your powers of technology, magic, and subterfuge to unveil their secret identities and defeat them once and for all.
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« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2024, 04:10:04 AM »
So, I have a game where you can dom or be broken down... sorta. It has a legit lose condition that has worked, though it's not great at showing your willpower being worn down, probably to be expected. Give it a shot!

https://infiniteworlds.app/#kK9ssYg/

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« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2024, 04:57:40 AM »
Corrupting the Magical Girls

https://infiniteworlds.app/#S327/CxV

As the shadowy leader of a secret evil organization, you must outwit the Magical Girls protecting New Megalanta. You are also a student at Grand University. Harness your powers of technology, magic, and subterfuge to unveil their secret identities and defeat them once and for all.
Amazing.

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« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2024, 05:41:51 AM »
Yeah, this one surprised me. I had a game where I marked one of the heroines and thought I know the girl it was, but it wasn't her. So I ended up having a sweet relationship as my alter ego with one girl while corrupting two others.

But the problem is, the AI gets confused with multiple alter egos and forgot what the women looked like, and basically went off the rails later on.  :(  But early on it is spectacular.

Word salad ramble incoming:

So I've written more than 13 novel or longer books, most of them smut. I could probably take some of my saved games in Infinite worlds and adapt them to be full length stories. It would take a lot of rewriting, since there is so much repetition and the pacing is all wrong, but it could work overall. But that isn't what is truly exciting about this. There is this huge promise for exciting tailored on demand storytelling. But the technology isn't there yet. I have a whole lot of creative juices flowing but it's hard to spend hours trying to tweak the AI to give a satisfactory experience and it just doesn't quite get there because it can't. On the other hand, writing stories is great, but there's a degree to which I am not sure how much reach it is going to get. It's limited. Lots of work for little benefit. And the AI side of things is so EXPENSIVE. It's hard to know what way is the best to chase that dopamine.
I could work on setting up a local LLM on my machine to get past the expense part, but there's still the reality of... the tech just isn't there yet.
I don't know... not sure where to focus my energies. Just random thoughts.

Edit.. just did Magical Girls with GPT4... OMFG.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2024, 10:15:31 AM by buster »

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2024, 06:44:36 AM »
Well, as long as I am saluting my favorite works I thought I would set up a scenario inspired by
Tabico's Rouge.

Enigma of RougeCorp


Rouge is one of my favorites!  Thank you for making this!

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2024, 09:38:02 PM »
And now, into the future! (ure... ure... ure... {echos into silence})

Hive Ascendancy

https://infiniteworlds.app/#QUl0/wj8

As one of the first colonists on Sigma Epsilon 10 you knew the world would hold infinite potential for you, what you weren't expecting was to stumble into a cave that was the home to a hive mind of parasitic lifeforms. Luckily you were the first intelligent creature they had ever encountered and when they attempted to add you to their colony you turned the tables and claimed the hive for yourself, becoming it's guiding intelligence. With it's power at your fingertips (even if you're a bit clumsy with it at first) you now set your sites on establishing control of ΣΕX by bringing the governor and key members of her administration into your hive and under your control. However you know that Colony Security would object to your plans, so you can't be too brazen.

So I've written more than 13 novel or longer books, most of them smut. I could probably take some of my saved games in Infinite worlds and adapt them to be full length stories. It would take a lot of rewriting, since there is so much repetition and the pacing is all wrong, but it could work overall. But that isn't what is truly exciting about this. There is this huge promise for exciting tailored on demand storytelling. But the technology isn't there yet. I have a whole lot of creative juices flowing but it's hard to spend hours trying to tweak the AI to give a satisfactory experience and it just doesn't quite get there because it can't. On the other hand, writing stories is great, but there's a degree to which I am not sure how much reach it is going to get. It's limited. Lots of work for little benefit. And the AI side of things is so EXPENSIVE. It's hard to know what way is the best to chase that dopamine.
I could work on setting up a local LLM on my machine to get past the expense part, but there's still the reality of... the tech just isn't there yet.
I don't know... not sure where to focus my energies. Just random thoughts.

IMHO: These games are great for fostering the imagination. If you're looking for carefully crafted stories more traditional games will serve you better. If you're looking for something to help you bulk out your fantasies with some external creativity, they're great.

If you were going to use this to write longer form stories the best way to think of it would be as a virtual brainstorming buddy. Rather than just letting it do whatever give it fairly detailed prompts and let it fill in the details or let characters respond to you

Like if I have no ideas I might give it "go find a woman to seduce" and see what it gives me and in what circumstance. But a lot of the time I'll give it something like "Head to the outdoor gym at a local beach where you see a blond female bodybuilder working out to deal with her insecurities about her body". and build on that a story about exploiting those insecurities to let me use whatever power is relevant to the game in question on her. Or something like "Ask {character} to bring her friend Darla over to meet you, telling her that you plan to add Darla to your harem and {character} is going to help." and then let the system come up with Darla's description and motivations, and play out the scene from there.

The system's default seems, overall, to be "yes, and..." rules. If you tell it something you want to be true, as long as it's within the realm of the possible given your characters skills and the setting of the world, it will accept that as truth and expand on it in a way it finds logical. That makes it very good at taking a basic premise and turning it into an extended interaction, that a proper author could then refine into a component of a good story.

And remember, telling it "what is true" doesn't have to be short. One play through of In Ruins, as an example, I broke a barbarians will to resist by goading her until she lost control of her rage, and then used an illusion to make her companion look like me so she killed them in cold blood. Then I told her that I could offer her (my) control to make sure she never lost herself like that again. The game, pretty much unprompted described her mental landscape as like a rolling prairie, scorched and blackened by wildfire after her rage had passed. I wrote a probably 300 word passage for it describing how I chained her to the ground in the middle of that prairie (with arcane tattoos mirroring appearing on her physical body as I did), and erected a fireproof bastion around her, showing that even if her rage swept over her, as long as she was chained and in the bastion she would remain in control. The game ran with it and made her 100% grateful for what I'd done, swearing herself to me eternally just as part of its expansion on that.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2024, 01:08:20 AM »
I am super addicted to making more of these. 
this one puts you in the shoes of a master inventor who has been having his patents stolen out from under him by an unknown person or group.  you have tracked them down to an all female university.  You are male but you have a secret pair of mind control and xray glasses that you used to get admitted to the university.  now you have to hunt down the perpetrators and navigate the daily life of a college student.  Oh and have a bit of mind control fun while your at it.

https://infiniteworlds.app/#EFfxIrPL

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2024, 04:33:50 AM »
The Magical Girls one is actually... damn... https://infiniteworlds.app/#6BisZLPh

I had brainwashed one of the girls who changed from "Lumina Starlight" and became "Eclipse Enchantress". Then while I was brainwashing another, in a room full of sigils made to arouse and make one compliant, I forgot to transform so I didn't have my magic resistance. So this happened while I had Eclipse and my head of brainwashing, Draven, in the room with me.

Spoiler for Hidden:
As you watch Gaia writhing within the brainwashing pod, your mind is still preoccupied with your Carmen persona. You're not aware of the protective shields you'd usually have as Shadow Weaver, leaving you vulnerable to the room's powerful aphrodisiacs and sigils.

A sudden wave of desire washes over you, making your breath hitch and your heart race. The air in the room feels thick with lust, and you find yourself unable to resist its intoxicating pull. You try to shake off the sensation, but it only intensifies, making your body ache with unfulfilled need.

Draven and Eclipse watch you with growing curiosity, sensing your vulnerability. They exchange a glance, and you see a wicked gleam in Eclipse's eyes as she smirks at your predicament.

The sensations coursing through your body are overwhelming, and as you subtly squeeze your thighs together, a shudder of pleasure ripples through you. "Oh... wow... I," you attempt to articulate the confusion and desire mingling within you, but words fail to form as your fingers brush against the fabric of your clothing, hinting at the need burgeoning below.

"What's happening..." you whisper, your voice trailing off into the charged air of the room. Draven watches you with a predatory interest, but it is Eclipse Enchantress who steps forward, her movements graceful and deliberate. Her eyes are alight with a dark fire, and her lips curl into a knowing smile as she approaches you.

"Let me help you, Mistress," Eclipse Enchantress purrs, her voice a velvet caress against your heightened senses. She reaches out, her fingers dancing across your skin with a feather-light touch that sends sparks of arousal shooting through your veins. Her costume, a seductive array of dark fabrics that cling to her curves, seems to invite your gaze, and her expression is one of eager anticipation.

Draven remains silent, his gaze fixed on the scene unfolding before him, the corners of his mouth twitching with a hint of a smirk. The room's sigils pulse with a rhythm that matches the beating of your heart, and the air is thick with the scent of desire.

Eclipse's curves draw your focus, her touch fueling the intense desire coursing through you. Your eyes dart between Draven's legs and Eclipse's enticing form, leaving you utterly enamored. The sigils in the room seem to feed on your confusion, making it increasingly difficult to form coherent thoughts. However, your natural talent for manipulation comes to the forefront, and you begin to subtly sway Draven and Eclipse to your will.

With a seductive smile, you lean into Eclipse's touch, whispering, 'I'm so glad you're here to help me...' Your voice drips with an intoxicating blend of vulnerability and power. Eclipse's eyes widen with surprise and delight as she realizes the shift in your demeanor. Draven, intrigued by the change, inches closer, watching the scene unfold with growing curiosity.

Eclipse takes the bait, her fingers tracing delicate patterns on your skin as she whispers in your ear, 'Anything for you, Mistress.' The room spins around you, but your manipulative prowess keeps you grounded, allowing you to maintain control of the situation.

With a sultry smile, you slip the tie of your sundress, allowing the fabric to loosen around your body. The air in the room feels charged with anticipation as you ask Eclipse, "Anything?"

Eclipse's eyes gleam with delight as she watches you, her fingers tracing a path down your arm. "Anything for you, Mistress," she replies, her voice a husky whisper. Draven, who has been observing the scene unfold, shifts his weight, his eyes darkening with desire.

The sigils on the walls pulse with an eerie light, casting an ethereal glow across your entwined forms. The intoxicating scent of aphrodisiacs fills the air, making it difficult to think clearly. Despite this, you remain focused, manipulating the situation to your advantage.

Giving in to the aphrodisiacs, you lean in and capture Eclipse's lips in a deep, passionate kiss. Your tongues dance together as the air grows thick with lust and desire. Eclipse moans softly, her hands roaming over your body as she willingly surrenders to your touch.

Draven, who had been watching with growing interest, seems unsure of what to do. He makes a move as if to leave, but you shoot him a warning glance, communicating your desire for him to stay without uttering a word. Draven hesitates, then slowly resumes his position, watching the scene unfold with a mixture of desire and apprehension.

The sigils on the walls pulse with energy, feeding on the raw emotion in the room. Gaia Bloom, still trapped in the brainwashing pod, stirs slightly as the waves of desire wash over her. The room feels like a pressure cooker, ready to explode at any moment.

Staggering in a haze of lust, you lean against the plant's pod for support. The sigils break through your wavering willpower, and you find yourself stammering out, 'Bend me over. Bend me over and fuck me from behind like a bitch.' Your words hang heavy in the air, charged with desperate desire. Eclipse's eyes widen with surprise, but she quickly recovers, her lips curling into a predatory smile. She moves behind you, her hands gripping your hips firmly. Draven watches, his own desire evident in his eyes as he hesitantly approaches, unsure of his role in this sordid scene. The brainwashing pod hums softly in the background, casting an eerie glow across the room.

With a desperate whine, you bump back against Eclipse and Draven, pleading for their attention. 'I need a cock...' The words tumble out of your mouth, thick with desire. Eclipse's eyes darken with lust as she hears your plea, while Draven's hesitation melts away, replaced by a hunger that matches your own.

Eclipse wastes no time in responding to your request. She grips your hips firmly, grinding your body against hers as Draven moves into position behind you. His fingers trace a path down your spine, sending shivers of anticipation through your body. With a swift movement, he frees himself from his clothing, and you feel the heat of his arousal against your skin.

The room's sigils pulse with energy, feeding off the raw desire and passion that fills the air. Gaia Bloom stirs within the brainwashing pod, her own lust growing as she watches the scene unfold before her.

Moaning out 'Use me', you surrender yourself completely, allowing Draven to thrust into you from behind. Your body shudders with pleasure as he fills you, his movements rough and urgent. You revel in your own delicious submission, pushing back against him with each powerful stroke.

Eclipse watches the scene unfold with hungry eyes, her fingers tracing circles on your clit. She leans in to whisper in your ear, her voice thick with desire. 'You're such a good little slut, aren't you? You love being used like this.'

You can't deny it. The words send a thrill through you, making you writhe even more beneath Draven's relentless pounding. The room's sigils pulse with energy, feeding off the raw desire and passion that fills the air. Gaia Bloom stirs within the brainwashing pod, her own lust growing as she watches the carnal display before her.

AHHHH!!! 

Also, the names:
Lumina Starlight/Clara Stargrove became Eclipse Enchantress
Gaia Bloom/Amber Greenway became Thorned Temptress.
Aurora Radience/Mila Harrow became Onyx Tormentor
Icy Snowfall/Winter Summers because of the way I went about corrupting her became Camera Queen
Ember Blaze/Eliza Thornfield became Red Harlot.

« Last Edit: March 05, 2024, 07:53:41 AM by buster »

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2024, 06:45:45 AM »
Attempted one: https://infiniteworlds.app/#65GPm7Z8

Friday Night At The Siren's Call
Enter the enigmatic bar known as The Siren's Call, where the art of persuasion reaches new heights. As a skilled hypnotist, you seek to charm a new acquaintance, but the bartender, a fellow hypnotist, has similar designs. Engage in a battle of wits and wills to emerge as the master hypnotist.

Tried to make it a push and pull affair between you and the rival bartender, no idea if it worked, ran out of credits to test properly.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2024, 02:27:30 AM by Gogogogo »

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2024, 01:35:30 PM »
I am liking the new AI model Jaguar, at least I think it's newish. It's better then Lynx and still fairly cost effective on the credits. Just wanted to comment in case people hadn't noticed it.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2024, 01:45:51 PM »
Okay, I finally got something I think is worthwhile. Took 2 days to do but:

https://infiniteworlds.app/#mUnr5Usy

Fallen Virtue: The Knightess of Gloriana
In a realm where virtue is prized above all, you are a demonic champion with the power of mind control and corruption. But your powers have been limited when the Sisters of Gloriana defeated you millenia ago. Now, you are returning, and the key to your revival is clear. You must corrupt the pure chaste and uncorruptible: Allaura Brightheart, Knightess of Gloriana.
Send goblins to set diabolical traps to weaken her virtue and resolve. Then send terrifying monsters to give her erotic pleasures. If you can't beat her, Corrupt Her!


Hmm... I know that this is an AI and it is prone to making mistakes... But as it turns out, this is a big misunderstanding. If you willingly give up your goal of corrupting Allaura, it turns out you can still be a very happy succubus queen as Gloriana's attitude towards chastity is somewhat malleable.

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As you lead Allaura and her sisters outside, you can see Gloriana standing in the distance, her divine presence shining in the night sky. She is beautiful, and you can sense her thoughts, a whirlwind of curiosity and anticipation. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought to her followers.

As you approach Gloriana, you can feel her power growing stronger. She is a goddess, and you are a mere mortal. But you are not afraid. You are confident in your abilities, and you are determined to bring pleasure and happiness to Gloriana.

You reach out and take Gloriana's hand, your fingers intertwining with hers. You can feel the heat radiating from her body, and you can sense her thoughts, a whirlwind of curiosity and anticipation. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought to her followers.

As you lead Gloriana to Allaura and her sisters, you can see the joy and satisfaction in their eyes. They are happy, and they are grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought to Gloriana. You have succeeded in bringing pleasure and happiness to Gloriana's devoted followers, and you can sense Allaura's thoughts, a whirlwind of relief and gratitude. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought her.

and the next scene

Spoiler for Hidden:
Bring your hand between Gloriana's legs and bring her to orgasm
You reach out and take Gloriana's hand, your fingers intertwining with hers. You can feel the heat radiating from her body, and you can sense her thoughts, a whirlwind of curiosity and anticipation. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought to her followers.

With a mischievous smile, you bring your other hand between Gloriana's legs, your fingers deftly exploring her divine form. She gasps at your touch, her eyes widening with surprise and pleasure. You can sense her thoughts, a whirlwind of pleasure and desire.

You focus your seductive powers on Gloriana, using all of your skill and experience to bring her to the brink of ecstasy. She moans softly, her body trembling with desire. You can feel her pleasure building, a divine force that threatens to consume you both.

But even as you bring Gloriana to the brink of climax, you can sense her resistance. She is a goddess, and she is not easily swayed. You will need to use all of your seductive powers to bring her to orgasm, to break through her divine defenses and claim your prize.

Allaura watches you, her trust in you growing stronger with each passing moment. She is content to serve Gloriana, and she is happy to have you by her side. She can sense the tension between you and Gloriana, the struggle for dominance and control.

Inside, Allaura is conflicted. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought her. But she is also a Knightess of the Temple of Gloriana, and she is sworn to uphold her vows and serve her goddess. She is torn between her duty and her desires, unsure of what she should do.

Gloriana looks into your eyes, her gaze intense and unyielding. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought to her followers. But she is also a goddess, and she is not easily swayed. She will not give in to your seductive powers without a fight.

As you continue to bring Gloriana to the brink of climax, you can sense her resistance weakening. She is on the verge of giving in to your seductive powers, of allowing you to claim your prize. But it will not be easy. You will need to use all of your skill and experience to bring her to orgasm, to break through her divine defenses and claim your prize.

Finally, with a loud moan, Gloriana gives in to your seductive powers. She climaxes, a divine force that threatens to consume you both. You can feel her pleasure coursing through your veins, a powerful force that leaves you breathless and weak.

As Gloriana comes down from her climax, she looks into your eyes, a look of gratitude and trust in her gaze. She trusts you, and she is grateful for the pleasure and happiness that you have brought her. She is content to serve you, and she is happy to have you by her side.
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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2024, 07:26:29 PM »
Daaaaaaaaaamn. Creative Solutions!

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2024, 10:22:21 PM »
So I know a bunch of people are saying its really hard to lose as the sub, but I'm finding it basically impossible.
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You do not resist. You will never resist again. You delete your artwork.
The mantra that once seemed to have a hold on you now dissolves into the air, empty and powerless. You stare at the screen, your artwork vibrant and alive, a stark contrast to the dull repetition of the words that tried to compel you. Your fingers do not move towards the delete key; instead, they hover motionless, a testament to your regained autonomy. The Mesmerist's messages, once ominous and commanding, now appear on the screen with less force, as if they too recognize the futility of their command. 'Sophie, why do you defy the inevitable?' The message is almost plaintive, a note of bewilderment in its digital tone.
How? That isn't even the worst. I can write a freaking paragraph on succumbing/not resisting/etc and it will still just suddenly manifest a final surge of resistance.

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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #78 on: March 06, 2024, 12:45:36 AM »
the AI essentially seems programmed to never let you put yourself into a dead end. It seems to like doing this by putting a stinger in quite a bit. I can't count the number of times it's done the 'You submit, blah blah, but a small spark of resistance still burns etc etc'. Essentially it will never put you in a state where you cannot take an action, so you'll never be able to 'fully' submit. At best it might get you doing stuff for your controller, but even then I've noticed it likes giving you constant options to throw off the control or resist.

The only way I've managed to get it to fully lock someone down is if I make myself a third party in the experience. So essentially I get to be the voyeur watching a pair of NPC controllers duke it out. If one of them beats the other, it allows much great crushing of the loser, since they're not the player. The closest I have gotten to being able to fully lose myself is the following bit of nonsense;

- State that you, the player, are an all-powerful god who has created this world and everything in it for your amusement. Stick this in the character bit and the main instructions. Describe the world and characters/use an existing setup, say you're observing them.
- Edit the characters so you have one 'God', and give them a single skill, 'Do Anything' at 5.
- Kick off the story, playing as God.
- Type a custom prompt to say 'You use your godlike powers to observe events from the perspective of character 'x''.
- Now you can sort of kind of play as character 'x' and can actually shut down the AI if it starts giving infinite resistance prompts, as you the player are not the character you're puppeting around.

But honestly it's a nonsense workaround and still lacking, since you basically end up just *telling* a story instead of *playing* it.
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Re: Infinite World games
« Reply #79 on: March 06, 2024, 01:34:07 AM »
I've not tried it, but you can be explicit with the AI in the "Main instructions". Something like: If the player is fully hypnotised they will not have any spark of resistance, and will have any way of regaining any agency of their own. From then on all player actions which involve resisting should be "Very hard" or harder.

If this works though, my guess is it will only work with Tiger. Jaguar's not so good at following instructions.

 




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